I still get lots of questions about Alkaline Water and Water Ionizers in particular.  I was getting ready to write a blog about that issue when the question popped into my head:  "How can I write anything better than what Robert Slovak did on this subject?  The answer is that I cannot, so I am going to publish a blog he did back in 2012.  Essentially, the ionizer industry is a scientific misconception that has spawned a billion- dollar industry.  Enjoy, but if you have an Ionizer, you are not going to like it. The truth hurts.

The Truth Behind The Alkaline Water Marketing Hype

The reason people are convinced to buy an alkaline ionizer is that they are told there is a premium on neutralizing acid in the body to make the proper acid-alkaline balance. And according to the alkaline ionizer theory at least (and I accept this), the alkaline water has the ability to neutralize stomach acid temporarily. You may have been taught that during the neutralization of stomach acid, that your body will recover by replenishing the acid in your stomach and allowing your body to produce an equal amount of bicarbonate buffer (alkaline buffer) into your bloodstream. So let's accept that this is a positive reaction: your body has released bicarbonate buffers, and you’ve alkalized your bloodstream, which will have the consequence of alkalizing your tissues and the organs, etc. Unfortunately, the science is much more complicated than that...and drinking water from alkaline ionizers may do more harm than good.

Alkaline Water 101: 2 Basic Must-Know Science Concepts To Help You Understand How Alkaline Ionizers Work

Concept #1: Alkaline Water and pH

Here is a place where terminology is almost everything. The term alkaline water is referring to the pH of the water. Alkaline has a pH of over 7. So if the water is 7.5, you can say it's alkaline water. If it’s 8.5 it’s alkaline water. If it’s 9.5, it’s alkaline water. If it's 13, it’s alkaline water. So it's just a term that means what's the pH of the water.

What pH really Means:

  • You may already know that pH actually stands for the potential for hydrogen. That’s what the P and the H mean. So it determines a certain quantity, referred to as hydrogen ions in the water.
  • pH is a parameter that can be applied to anything: there’s the pH of the skin, the pH of the hair, the pH of water, the pH of milk, anything.
  • A lot of hydrogen ions = an acid pH.
  • Few hydrogen ions or none = an alkaline pH.


Concept #2: Electrolysis

Alkaline ionizers use a process called electrolysis. If you were to take a battery and hook it up to a glass of water and just put two terminals in the water, you’ll see the bubbles coming out of the water. And this is the process of electrolysis.

In alkaline ionizers, the electrolysis process separates the constituents of the water into two parts or sides, so to speak:


  • One side is alkaline minerals - this stream of water is reserved for drinking and consumption and the pH is over 7.


  • The other side is acid minerals - this stream of water has a pH below 7 and is reserved for other purposes.

So when water goes through an alkaline ionizer, two streams of water that emanate from this device. Now that you know these basic concepts, let’s move on to alkalinity of water.

Alkalinity of Water: Alkaline Water Does Not Mean It Has Substantial Alkalinity

People are convinced that alkaline water is sufficient to neutralize the acid, but it’s just not true. The only thing that neutralizes acid is alkalinity, not the water being alkaline. So let me rephrase that: Alkaline water does not mean that it has substantial alkalinity. There must be alkaline minerals in the water -- to begin with -- in order to produce alkalinity in your water. So if someone is on a water supply that is marginal in the amount of alkaline mineral content, such as Seattle, Washington, Albany, New York or Denver, Colorado or any of the thousands of towns and cities with low alkaline mineral content water…an alkaline ionizer (or the electrolysis process), can make it have a high pH, but it doesn’t mean that your water will have a high alkalinity. The truth is, people are being hoodwinked into thinking that this high pH is guaranteeing the neutralization of the acid in their stomachs, but in fact, it’s not doing anything at all! It’s simply being neutralized in just seconds. Only a drop of acid would neutralize, say, a pH 9 water produced on a water supply in Seattle, Washington. Clearly there is a deception going on here. And the marketers have convinced the entire customer base that alkaline water is the same as water with alkalinity when in fact it is not. I find this reprehensible, although I don’t know if it's intentional. As a scientist, I'm really trying to decipher why alkaline water sellers can just say, "Hey, if your pH is over 9, you’ve got it covered." Because when you look at the science, it’s just totally untrue.

Don't Be Duped - Alkaline Ionizers Don't Make Safe Drinking Water

Most people don't realize that the actual source of water is important when it comes to using an alkaline ionizer. In fact, the source of water you attach your alkaline ionizer to is critical.

High Potential For Unsafe Drinking Water Because Alkaline Ionizers Don’t Remove Contaminants

Here are common contaminants you may find in alkaline water:

  • Chemical Contaminants - The quality of water alkaline ionizers produce is very dependent on the water it is put on. Are you using tap water, well water, or bottled water? First, take the opportunity to learn more about the type of water you’re using in your alkaline ionizer. The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has identified hundreds of contaminants that are allowed to be in your water, such as aluminum, fluoride, chlorine and more. These are contaminants that the EPA considers must be in water to keep it safe and healthy on their terms, not our terms. To learn more about drinking water safety and contaminants in your water, click here.
  • Mineral Contaminants - Alkaline ionizers have to re-mineralize the water with filters. And even though it’s beyond the scope of this discussion, I’m very skeptical of re-mineralizing filters. Re-mineralizing filters typically use natural minerals for various reasons. And those natural minerals, which are from the earth, can also contain contaminants that are re-released into the water, creating yet another complication.

So alkaline ionizers just don't make good water purifiers. They don’t have sophisticated technology and they have very limited filtration, which sellers overhype.

Why Alkaline Ionizers Are An Expensive Proposition And What You Can Do Instead

So let's face it, if you are reading this article, you are likely interested in safe drinking water. You want the highest quality and healthiest options. If you were considering an alkaline ionizer, like Kangen, Jupiter, Life Ionizer, IonLife, etc., and you wanted truly pure water, you’d have to add a reverse osmosis water purifier to your water source, then connect the alkaline ionizer. And those who can economically afford it are tending to do this, but now you’re looking at somewhere between $5,000 - $7,000 for a water system. This is expensive and unnecessary.

There are easier, more affordable and better solutions for restoring the acid-alkaline balance in your body. Here are a couple of simple solutions:

  • Use baking soda.
  • Drink Gerol Steiner sparkling water (you will see, right on the bottle, it has 1,800 milligrams per liter of acid-neutralizing alkalinity.



  • Alkaline ionizers do not create substantial alkalinity of water. Alkaline ionizers are highly dependent upon the source of the water supply for alkalinity. There has to be enough alkaline minerals in the source water supply (e.g., tap water) to create alkalinity of water.
  • Alkaline ionizers do not contribute to acid-alkaline balance in your body (or alkalizing your blood stream). There have to be enough acid-neutralizing minerals to create alkalinity in your body.
  • Alkaline ionizers do not have good filtration. Your drinking water may still contain contaminants that are unsafe to drink.
  • Alkaline ionizers are unnecessarily expensive. Why spend thousands on an inadequate water filter when you can have more success with pure, clean water and baking soda?

*Update 07/20/2020

Our Answer To Water Alkaline Ionizers

For years now customers have asked us for a high quality solution to alkaline ionizers. The requested requirements were simple, but required a ton of research and testing to perfect. Our customers needed a product that could provide pure water with high alkalinity, that was relatively inexpensive. Our first endeavor into this is the All American 6 Stage Reverse Osmosis System. This undersink RO system features 100% American made parts and is paired with our trademarked Livation Hydration Chamber.


which does the following: 

  1. Uses far-infrared balls to emit minerals
  2. Increases the pH of the filtered water typically to between 8.5 – 10.0 
  3. Changes the oxidation-reduction potential of the water (ORP) to between -100mV and -200mV 
  4. Reduces the sizes of the clusters of water molecules (re-structures) so that the water is easily absorbed in the body 
  5. It also puts beneficial alkaline minerals into the water, such as calcium, potassium, magnesium. 
  6. Adds molecular hydrogen with antioxidant potential
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John Miles
September 21, 2017 at 10:05 PM
I have drank alkaline water---made by a water alkalizer---for over 10 years now. I use reverse osmosis to purify the water, then remineralize it with pelletized calcium/magnesium in a remineralization cartridge, then I send it to the alkalizer. I measure the pH of the water using a handheld pH/ORP meter which measures pH to 1/100th of a pH. I have sufficient mineral content to consistently make pH 10.5 alkaline water. The water also have a substantially low ORP as well. I have experienced significant health benefits from drinking this water. I lowered my blood pressure over ten points in the first three weeks of use. I completely cured arthritis in my knees that had made every step painful. I can test my urine pH with test strips and attain a urine pH as high as 9.0. I am 59 years old and take no medications. You can attempt to debunk the effectiveness of a water alkalizer all you want, but I will never stop using mine and reaping the health benefits it has provided me.
September 21, 2017 at 10:05 PM
The fact is that you have significantly increased your consumption of water. Would not make a difference if it was hi PH or not. Must people are constantly dehydrated. When you spend a lot of money on a machine you tend to drinks much more. It's not the PH it's the all in the amount
Mark Timmons
September 25, 2017 at 7:58 PM
What is the ORP?
September 25, 2017 at 7:58 PM
Oxidation reduction potential
May 12, 2021 at 4:31 PM
You are absolutely right. My wife was facing acid issue for last several years. None of the doctors in Bay area including those in Stanford could give any solution and the medicines they gave stopped working after a while. One day I found Alkaline water at the water section and bought few for her to try. She feels much better and stopped taking those medicines. I am sure people bullshit without knowing or without practical experience. Bought Gofilter from Amazon and when she starts complaing that she is getting acidity we know time for filter replacement. But their quality is very inconsistent and not reliable so looking for more permanent solution although expensive
jay harris
September 28, 2017 at 11:58 PM
About 3 years ago a friend of mine gave me and my wife a presentation about the benefits of consuming Alkaline Water. I must say, I definately agree with the benefits, but the pricing of 1 of the units is what scared me. Nice Article!
Mark Timmons
October 3, 2017 at 12:36 PM
The way that people are selling Ionizers is based upon a scientific misconception.
Rob Elliott
October 2, 2017 at 8:32 PM
Hello Mark, I believe it stands for Oxidation-Reduction Potential. Here is a brief breakdown: Oxidation-reduction potential, or ORP, is a measurement that indicates the degree to which a substance is capable of oxidizing or reducing another substance. ORP is measured in millivolts (mv) using an ORP meter. A positive ORP reading indicates that a substance is an oxidizing agent.
Mark Timmons
October 3, 2017 at 12:38 PM
You are correct!
John Miles
October 17, 2017 at 4:38 PM
Forgive me for not explaining ORP. Oxidation Reduction Potential is basically the ability of the water to act as an antioxidant. Oxidative stress damages cells. Because the water alkalizer uses a negatively charged plate to create the alkaline water it imparts a measurable negative charge to the resulting alkaline water. The Hanna Instruments HI98120 measures both pH to 100th of a pH as well as ORP to a resolution of +/-1000mV. The more negative the measurement, the greater the antioxidant value. Tap water will have a highly positive ORP---indicating no antioxidant value. Alkaline water produced with a water alkalizer will display a negative value. The more powerful the water alkalizer, the more negative the reading will be.
Thomas S.
July 5, 2018 at 11:05 PM
Is it possible that choosing a certain type of limestone and crushing it up in a water dispensing bottle filter has health benefits ? If so is it a good idea to add a simple two pronged zapper attached to a 9 volt battery, Or is there more science to the topic than just that. I know that I dont like risking long term health problems from not understanding that food and water alone is not enough and the idea of having healthy mineral rich water seems like a great idea to compare with chemicals and who knows what in the tap water.
Mark Timmons
July 8, 2018 at 10:27 PM
Maybe if you drank 40 gallons a day. You can't dissolve that much. Maybe you should eat it? JUST KIDDING! If you are bent on the best mineral water, this is it:
September 15, 2018 at 8:14 AM
Can you please give me answer in one line there is require alkaline water or not ?
Mark Timmons
September 15, 2018 at 9:22 PM
No... of course not!
Mark Acidicus
September 15, 2018 at 4:43 PM
I take water out of any Orlando lake, big or small, scoop out the algae and other debris and put water in a 5 gal GLASS water bottle, like the ones they actually sold over 10 years ago. I then put it in the sun for 5 days, float 3 oz of tequila in it and let it settle in for a day, Then I drink the water. Water tastes great, no hint of tequila after taste, and I haven't been sick in 16 years.
Mark Timmons
September 15, 2018 at 9:21 PM
Hilarious. Maybe you should also smoke eight White Owl cigars a day like George Burns. That's healthy too!
October 11, 2018 at 6:33 PM
I disagree with this article. I am 48 years old and was diagnosed with high acid reflux, hurt burn. I was prescribed omeprazole that I was instructed to take 1 a day. And I was over weight, I have tiny lump/cyst in my right breast as well. My sister, my aunt, my niece has undergone mastectomy due to breast cancer. I was afraid that I may follow the same fate, I started looking for ways to prevent the disease and one of them is drinking this alkaline water. So i got the device and started drinking alkaline water. I noticed changes in my body. First, I have more energy. My acid reflux had decrease I'm not taking the pills as frequent as before. Maybe once or twice a month. I noticed the lump in my breast had decreased too and I lost 5 pounds in 3 most of drinking the alkaline water. So far it's working for me. It's just so funny that science and scientist will tell you what is good for you and after awhile will tell you it's not good anymore. Who discovered alkaline is good for our body's ph? Isn't it the scientist? And now scientists tells us it's not good. Well, this the point. Just because it's not good for you, means it's not good for me. And there is always someone or somebody to contradict the greatness of things. It's like when everything is like a garden of eden somehow a snake comes along.... lol. That's life, I guess. ....
July 5, 2021 at 7:49 PM
So so true!
October 22, 2018 at 9:39 AM
I doubt drinking alkaline water will give you any benefits, but If you suffer from silent reflux (LPR) then a possible mechanism for the illness is pepsin, the pepsin is released from the stomach as a gas which then binds to the cells in your throat, nose and upper airway. Acidic food will activate the pepsin and damage the cells, drinking alkaline water can potentially deactivate the pepsin. Thats the theory im not saying it works.
Alexa Bartel
October 25, 2018 at 2:11 PM
It never seems we can win with clean drinking water. I agree with commenter Gia. One minute science tells us something is okay, then not. But thanks for this informative post. What is the safest option for drinking water?
Cal Keefe Oatis II
November 5, 2018 at 7:50 AM
This article is deceptive and I am just wondering why someone out in this world would want to turn people away from the healing power of these Water Ionizer systems? I am not going to go into my own personal details about my experience with my Life Water Ionizer unit but I haven't felt this great in years and it helps with everything from cooking, cleaning, beauty, and drinking water. I just feel like the article had a bad borderline evil agenda out there so I just want to share my brief humble opinion on my EXPERIENCES and in short, my family and I would never go without one of these machines another day of our lives.
Mark Timmons
November 5, 2018 at 8:30 AM
Again, ionizers are built on a scientific misconception (this can be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt) and in some cases, they may be detrimental to the user. However, your belief is what fuels this industry. Good luck!
November 30, 2018 at 10:57 PM
Well if a scientist says it, it must be true
December 8, 2018 at 7:19 PM
Is Eternal water in bottle goes thru this electrolysis process? I bought few bottles 1 tasted so bad.
Mark Timmons
December 9, 2018 at 11:16 AM
I have no idea.
December 30, 2018 at 10:44 AM
I do not claim to be an expert on anything really and certainly not this, but as far as I have researched thus far... RO machines commonly add the minerals that are being referenced as missing in munipal water sources. RO machines commonly remove 98-99 % of contaminants that are being referenced as not being removed by these machines. RO machines that do this range greatly in price and can be purchased for a few hundred dollars and yes to several thousand if you choose to go with those options. There are many RO systems (that a few hundred bucks) made in USA with pretty good warranties / guarantees. So it seems to me there are plenty affordable options out there.
January 1, 2019 at 3:46 PM
Mark, You are absolutely right!!! As a biochemist, I can't believe the misinformation and ignorance regarding human biochemistry. Just like the "Snake oil salesmen" a hundred seventy years ago, claims of curing diseases unassociated with pH, with so-called Alkaline water, are total BS. It is an interesting insight into the Placebo effect, however. As you suggested, Baking Soda works great and costs next to nothing. Don't overdo it!! As for John's comments, the Hanna Instruments HI98120 is NOT a pH meter. That would be the Hanna Instruments HI98121. I would take anything he contributed with a grain of salt. Pun intended.
January 4, 2019 at 5:01 PM
I drink bottled alkaline water with a pH of 8.8 or higher to permanently deactivate pepsin in my throat and esophagus. Also, to help neutralize soda and coffee. We tend to unnaturally drink a lot of acidic drinks these days. I started about four days ago and already feel a difference.
Mark Timmons
January 10, 2019 at 9:23 AM
I agree with that.
January 11, 2019 at 4:21 PM
Mark and Don, how much Baking Soda should we use? For example, in a 4.5 Gallon Storage Tank.
Mark Timmons
January 17, 2019 at 6:44 PM
I have used a teaspoon onve a day in 16 oz of water. I am not a Doctor, but you don't want to do this a lot without speaking with your doctor.
Kelly Marlette
February 13, 2019 at 11:35 AM
Since when? I have had great success with our water ionizer. It is adjustable for different levels of acidity and alkalinity. Fairly cheap. Filters out flouride completely as well as other contaminants. You can test all of this with simple test strips. It tastes way better for drinking and cooking and the animals like it better too. It actually allows a steady flow of calcium and mag so like I said I am able to adjust the ph. Alkaline water has dozens of health benefits and supports an alkaline environment within our bodies to ward off illness and disease caused by processed foods, soda, junk food, coffee, sugar, dairy, red meat, poor soil, etc etc. Our diets have drastically changed over the years. I am not understanding your concept here whatsoever as it can easily be evaluated through blood work and respiratory function if you want sincere "proof". We can further assist our bodies by trying to minimize stress and through exercise. While alkaline water ALONE is not a one size fits all cure, it certainly does help, especially with hydration! It's all proven beneficial, but my understanding is that you're trying to state that the cations are not converted into a usable source? This doesn't make any sense. Our bodies will absorb the nutrients and due to the mag, will allow calcium to be destributed in bones and teeth where it needs to be instead of floating around in lala land causing more problems. It reduces pepsin, blood sugar, and improves overall hydration by increasing the amount of circulating fluid as opposed to just flushing it out. Maybe if you were referring to bottled water because we all know it's false advertising and tastes like shit...but an actual ionizer or reverse osmosis system...I highly doubt it. If you sincerely believe this then just add lemon to your water, acv, sodium bicarb and eat a nutrient dense diet that is organic and doesn't contain pesticides. Grow your own food, whatever, but don't discount it's effects based on non-medical hogwash floating around the internet. There are a variety of ways to improve our bodily systems and encourage proper function. It's really up to the person as to which system works best. I would really like to see this "research". You say you are a how have you personally tested and proven your theory? Or is this really just a bunch of crap you found on the internet opposing every research study out there in which there are no pharmaceutical kickbacks to coerce people into believing otherwise?
February 13, 2019 at 11:35 AM
Could you please provide a reasonable answer based on scientific criteria? 0. A review on peer-reviewer and renowned publications on the field 1. Statistical number of trials on the 'benefits' for each group of study (> 125 persons) 2. Need a 'blind' group, a group of people oto which alkaline water is offered but they don't know. Then diagnose the effects. 3. A placebo group, to which 'normal' water is offered but said it's alkaline water. 4. All procedures should be standardized and carried out by third party laboratories (not alkaline water manufacturers). 5. All results submitted to a recognized journal. Wait a few months for peer-reviewing. 6. Come back with your results.
Mark Timmons
August 31, 2020 at 10:55 AM
I would be happy to do that if you could secure about $2 Million in funding! Should be a piece of cake!
Mark Timmons
March 6, 2019 at 8:39 PM
I am not a scientist, but my BS meter is pegging out. You are silly!
Mara Roxa
February 25, 2019 at 12:15 PM
I don’t understand why baking soda is recommended as it is used to kill weeds clean around the house surely that’s really unhealthy. I just brought pH replenish because I wanted a glass water filter instead of plastic now after reading all the comments I’m really confused ? I stopped drinking tap water 13 years ago and would like to stay on that path but one step further by giving up the plastic aaaarrrggghhh
Mark Timmons
March 6, 2019 at 7:52 PM
Many oncologists recommend baking soda for cancer patients. It's like anything else - too much can kill you but in moderation it can be good for you. P.S. The right plastic is not a problem.
Wade wilson
March 21, 2019 at 9:24 PM
I’ve known this to a degree for a while, I mainly got a “alkaline filtered pitcher” for the “taste” of high ph water vs bottled. Soooo, if there’s not benefit either way (other than spending thousands of $’s or the baking soda technique) Then does it matter if you’re drinking TRUE alkaline water, or imitation stuff?
Mark Timmons
March 25, 2019 at 10:34 AM
If you think it tastes good, by all means do it.
George Burns
July 26, 2019 at 4:19 PM
You all do realize this is just a product placement post for the mineral water he recommends right?
Mark Timmons
July 27, 2019 at 2:37 PM
George, Gracie would not be too happy with you because I do not recommend mineral water.
August 17, 2019 at 12:48 PM
Dear Mark It is an interesting topic for sure. So what is the real answer to the "ORP". ? It seems logical to have this negative? Is it real? If it is real would this be a benefit? I can see that Ionizers make higher Ph levels to water. If, orp is real and beneficial where else can you get it, other than thru the ionizer machines? So the body does a great job of regulating the Ph. It appears that being alkaline is better than acidic? So if one wants higher Ph levels they can add sodium bicarbonate. I have used a product (drops) that has potassium bicarbonate and other things to raise the Ph balance. It is true that cancer clinics are using sodium bicarbonate. I would assume the reason is to raise the Ph to ward off cancer? One doctor states the sodium in baking soda does not raise blood pressure. So, one buys the machine drinks higher Ph water, hopefully, has the benefit of the "ORP". In doing so if there was too high Ph the body would regulate it? Forgetting the fact that the ionizer can raise Ph, one could set the control to regular water level I think to 7, but maybe get this "ORP" in the water. One nasty thing on the sodium bicarb its a salty tasting drinking down the hatch. I greatly appreciate your comments on this! Also if you feel led to comment privately my email is listed. Thanks Again!
Mark Timmons
August 19, 2019 at 9:18 AM
We have some interesting things coming down the pike soon, including molecular hydrogen, another process using hydrogas and a silicate to drop the ORP to -400 and raise the pH to 10.5. Stay tuned.
Donna zylberfuden
August 21, 2019 at 7:21 AM
What is structured distilled water and do you know of a device sold for making this kind of water?
Mark Timmons
August 26, 2019 at 9:17 AM
Jacqueline Foster
September 17, 2019 at 8:58 PM
I couldn’t help but notice that you recommended Gerald Steiner sparkling water instead of high alkaline water. Do you have a financial reason for bashing all forms of high alkaline water except Gerald Steiner water. I think this was a way for you to get some free advertising for your product. My surgeon recommended high alkaline water with electrolytes for faster healing after my shoulder replacement. I think you have done a disservice to your readers.
Mark Timmons
September 17, 2019 at 9:08 PM
At the time I posted this blog (about 2 years ago) most waters that were labeled "high alkaline" were bogus. They still may be. "pHenomenal Water" is now another exception. Before you say I have done a disservice to readers, I think you should understand what makes water highly alkaline... and it's not just water with a high pH. It's water with alkalinity, not the bogus high pH water that is called alkaline. Would it surprise you to learn that there is no regulations as to what is considered "alkaline water?" Gerolsteiner is highly alkaline and that is the only connection I have to it. I get nothing for it and I have only tried it once - I hated it! However, it is alkaline water. I think you should gather real facts, not pseudoscience before making baseless accusations. By the way, we are working on a way to have a device that produces alkaline water from your tap, but are a few months away.
Jacqueline Foster
September 18, 2019 at 12:03 PM
I was approved for my 2 cats to be support pets which I am very happy about. But I also have a small dog who provides me with love and comfort. She is always there for me with a wagging tail and some kisses. Could she also be approved so that I can have 3 pets when I move to New Mexico in the spring? Most places only allow 2. I gave her information in my original application. 20-year-old Chihuahua named Angel. It would make apartment hunting so much easier if I could have all 3 as support pets because they really are.
September 26, 2019 at 6:43 AM
Interesting article and an amusing thread of commentary. Our water comes from a well (250 feet deep) and is acidic at a level which corrodes brass and copper plumbing. Recently had it tested and the pH was 5 so we're considering an acid neutralizing system in hopes of preventing further plumbing leaks. Any advice you can offer on the types of systems that will help in this situation? As a side note, I'd always wondered why my coffee at home never tased as good as when made in friends/relatives homes (using the same coffee and my French press). After learning how acidic our water is, using a spa water test kit I determined how much baking soda (1/8 teaspoon per 12 oz water) was need to bring the pH to 7 and and using this method, coffee definitely tastes better.
Mark Timmons
September 28, 2019 at 11:13 AM
That certainly works. Just don't use too much AND drink too much coffee. It will neutralize your stomach acid and prevent proper digestion if you eat immediately after the coffee.
Ishmeet Singh
December 25, 2019 at 1:07 PM
Hey Mark, What are your thoughts on the following research article:
Mark Timmons
January 1, 2020 at 6:45 PM
It's very interesting and we are currently working on something called Livation Hydration Technology which incorporates much of what this paper talks about.
January 8, 2020 at 4:26 PM
I have an Alka Viva H2 ionizer that I have been using for 2 years. It contains an ultrawater filter that is supposed to filter contaminants and heavy metals before the water is alkalized. After alkalizing the water, I ozonate it to make sure all the herbicides, etc are destroyed. However, in a recent urine test for heavy metal analysis, my test came back high in platinum, niobium, and tungsten. So, can any of these metals be coming from the alkalizing machine itself?
Mark Timmons
January 15, 2020 at 7:18 PM
While I cannot say for certain, I believe that some of those metals may be in the plates of an ionizer. If that is the case, this is just one more strike against ionizers... of which I am not a fan. I prefer to strip out all the contaminants and the minerals and re-structure the water with a new technology we are releasing in a few weeks. It is called Livation Hydration Technology and will provide true alkaline water with a pH of 9.5 - 10.0, a negative ORP with minerals added back. Watch for it.
January 25, 2020 at 7:46 PM
I have an older Jupiter ionizer. It definitely worked to stop occasional acid reflux, but when I'd use it on a regular basis I seemed to feel worse. I still had heard and read so much about the benefits of ionized water, and I know my body is more acidic than I'd like, but it always made me feel worse by causing muscle cramping and fasciculation. I just started buying bottled alkaline water with minerals and feel fine, but I look forward to hearing more about the Livation Hydration Technology. Do you have any current information, Mark?
Mark Timmons
March 7, 2020 at 2:42 PM
It is coming this month (March 2020) stay tuned!
Jane B
January 27, 2020 at 11:26 PM
Mark, for years I had been drinking distilled water with added Concentrace Minerals. Tasted great but ph was 5, as has been my body’s ph. Last week switched to ionized ‘alkaline’ water with 8.5 ph. Yuk. Did not change my body ph, tastes awful, and it leaves a film on my glass bottles. Will your product be available in a ‘magic pill’ that I can add to distilled water mixed with baking soda? Installing a system in my home is not something I can afford.
Mark Timmons
March 15, 2020 at 10:23 AM
Yes, it is coming soon.
March 15, 2020 at 10:23 AM
Looking forward to it.
February 5, 2020 at 10:49 PM
Mark- I am confused now having read several of your blogs and hoping for some clarification. I've read several places that the alkaline water is a fad and not truly beneficial and can even cause problems. I understand the reasoning behind the 'fake' or electric ion machines. What about natural? I am on a well, have decent water but it has to be softened, so my sodium is ~100 ppm. I am concerned with too much salt so I wanted RO until I read about the "dead water". I've read your comments and understand you don't think it's an issue. After tons of research I settled on the the aqualiv because it is "natural". I don't believe I need RO since I am on a well and have had my water tested. Just curious as to what this new product is your launching (Livation Hydration Technology) and why it's now beneficial to have the ph of 9.5 - 10? I am now deciding between the aqualiv and your new product. At the end of the day, I just want the healthiest water for myself and my family which includes two very young toddlers. Any pros and cons for either system would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for all your help!
Mark Timmons
March 15, 2020 at 11:06 AM
We are still completing our testing and hope to roll out the new 100% Made in USA products this month, but it could be in April. The Livation Hydration Technology will include Four (4) Things: 1. Reverse Osmosis which removes more contaminants than any process; 2. The Livation Chamber which adds back minerals; raises the pH and lowers the ORP; 3. Livation Molecular Hydrogen Tablets (take 1-3 a day in 10 ounces of water) which is the best anti-oxidant; and 4. Livation Alkalizing Powder (which is for occasional use or when you are ill). It's coming as soon as we can roll it out. It always takes longer than it takes! ;)
Jhon Martin
February 11, 2020 at 7:38 AM
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March 11, 2020 at 6:59 PM
hi, All of this info are very interesting, thanks for your comments. I have a water distiller machine, and I want to convert the distilled water to alkaline water. What should I use? What should I do? Should I buy Alkaline filters only to convert it? Should I buy a ionizer alkaline machine? I was thinking to connect a alkaline filter between the distiller and the water faucet. thanks
Mark Timmons
March 15, 2020 at 12:48 PM
I am not a fan of distillers as some chemicals can distill into the water stream. I recommend RO followed by our new Livation Hydration Alkaline Technology.... coming soon and it's 100% AMERICAN MADE AND 100% AMERICAN MANUFACTURED.
April 12, 2020 at 11:19 PM
i have read that baking soda ingested with water can be bad for a person's kidneys
Mark Timmons
April 14, 2020 at 9:40 AM
I don't recommend it, but short-term use by someone who is sick is frequently recommended by doctors. I am not a Doctor, so listen to your doctor.
July 19, 2020 at 7:54 PM
The question I have is why are hospitals and medical facilities using these things? This is disturbing. I was given several articles and videos of scientist and doctors saying this is healthy! Who do you believe. I guess, get a hold of a unit and have independent test conducted with it.
Mark Timmons
July 25, 2020 at 9:49 AM
What hospitals and medical facilities are using these?
Robert Johnson
September 1, 2020 at 5:14 PM
Seems to me the people getting defensive & upset over the information of this article didn't properly comprehend what Mark was actually getting at... but I believe the actual point was just claiming to give water a high pH level doesn't necessarily mean you have enough Alkaline Minerals in the water to actually MAKE IT TRUE 'Alkaline Water' as advertised, can essentially just be high pH water; would this be correct Mark? Also, would having an RO system for purified water, then taking that purified water & adding say mineral supplements/drops to the water before running through the 'ionizer' make any kind of difference? is that something you'd recommend & be able to classify as true 'Alkaline Water'? I'm about to start looking into the new product you've mentioned in this thread.... but would really like to hear your opinion on my questions above. Thanks in advance!
Mark Timmons
September 22, 2020 at 3:25 PM
Adding minerals does not make the water alkaline. Raising pH does not make the water alkaline. Alkaline water is water with alkalinity and that includes a lot of factors. Our Livation Hydration Technology does the following: 1. Uses far-infrared balls to emit minerals 2. Increases the pH of the filtered water typically to between 8.5 – 10.0 3. Changes the oxidation-reduction potential of the water (ORP) to between -100mV and -200mV 4. Reduces the sizes of the clusters of water molecules (re-structures) so that the water is easily absorbed in the body 5. It also puts beneficial alkaline minerals into the water, such as calcium, potassium, magnesium. 6. Adds molecular hydrogen with antioxidant potential I suppose you could do what you are saying with an ionizer... but why?
December 12, 2020 at 9:47 PM
I would take this all more seriously if you weren't the president of US water systems
Mark Timmons
December 13, 2020 at 2:03 PM
I am not sure what you are saying. Are you saying that my nearly 50 years of experience and training mean nothing? Are you saying that being a Master Water Specialist somehow disqualifies me because I am the President of US Water Systems? Are you saying that we only sell certain products and can't be trusted on other product opinions? Come, on spit it out: What do you mean? I'm pretty direct. You can be too! By the way, can I trust someone who gives a bogus e-mail address? We sell any water treatment product that works and makes sense. There is a lot of mis-information about alkaline water and we simply speak the truth!
February 9, 2021 at 10:58 AM
Mark, I have some previous experience in municipal drinking water and I'm very intrigued by the Livation product. What I've seen in the municipal plants that I worked were alkalinity level around 75mg/l for total alkalinity on their tap water. Do you know what the LIvation water alkalinity level is for total alkalinity (typically its in mg/l as CaCO3)? Thanks
Mark Timmons
February 15, 2021 at 4:11 PM
It all depends upon incoming water quality, but we do make true alkaline water.
Ken K
July 31, 2021 at 1:52 PM
I am 78, been drinking a glass of vinegar water in the morning and a glass of baking soda water in the evening for years. No meds, great physical condition, no complaints. I get my good health from Almighty God and give all credit to Him.
October 27, 2022 at 9:18 AM
Of course they going to try to debunk it ..they losing money by us not buyin medication
October 31, 2022 at 1:06 PM
Too much alkaline water even if it was filtered beforehand can give you liver stones because over time it crystalizes in your body. Look at a faucet, if the water is too alkaline it will have a build up a white crust on the outer part that you can see and it can do similar in your body overtime.
Mark Timmons
November 12, 2022 at 9:32 AM
I hate to ruin your story, but the white crust that builds up on your faucets is hardness minerals, not the result of alkaline water.
Steve Huddleston
November 26, 2022 at 3:29 PM
Hey Mark, you say a lot about alkaline water having little benefit but you don’t address ORP. I’ve been using ionizers for 10 years. I do use an RO system that feeds my ionizers, and a remineralizer. You couldn’t feed strict RO water into an ionizer and get ionized water out because it’s the minerals “electrolytes” in the water that give water the ability to carry an electrical current. And my ionizer can produce over a -500 orp which to me means it has a powerful ability to neutralize free radicals and reduce oxidation within the body. Why don’t you mention oxidative stress or talk about orp? I use these machines more so for the purpose of negatively ionized water which I believe has a higher value than just the ph of the water. There are a lot of ways to get alkaline water but tell me an easier way of getting water with this level of negative ions.
Mark Timmons
November 27, 2022 at 10:45 PM
I am not against ionizers. I have tested many and have found that many ionizers work well in the beginning, but over a fairly short time, the alkaline stream is not so alkaline. They use energy, require constant monitoring, require an RO ahead of them and then requires a remineralizer. I prefer simplicity and recommend this: As you can see, not only does the Reverse Osmosis System remove the widest spectrum of contaminants, but it also provides alkaline water. It does not make -500 ORP, but neither do most alkalizers after the “break-in” Period. Here is what our Livation Systems does: 1. Uses far-infrared balls to emit minerals 2. Increases the pH of the filtered water typically to between 8.5 – 10.0 3. Changes the oxidation-reduction potential of the water (ORP) to between -100mV and -200mV 4. Reduces the sizes of the clusters of water molecules (re-structures) so that the water is easily absorbed in the body 5. It also puts beneficial alkaline minerals into the water, such as calcium, potassium, magnesium. 6. Adds molecular hydrogen with antioxidant potential
November 30, 2022 at 11:13 AM
US Water systems is speaking against water ionizer machines but yet it makes a water purification system out of plastic! I find that extremely hypocritical. Also marketing that their system is BPA free is duplicitous because they know that even the PBA substitutes in plastic pose their own health risks.
Mark Timmons
November 30, 2022 at 8:34 PM
It's easy to make accusations, but I would like to know what credentials and qualifications you have that allow you the leeway to call someone a hypocrite without any proof. I happen to be a Master Water Specialist with over 50 years of water treatment experience. One of our biggest markers is laboratory water... which has to be 100% pure H2O. It cannot have anything in the water... including chemicals. We take it all out and use plastic. According to you, that is not possible. So, smart guy, here is your chance to explain how you are right... or just shut up! Your choice!